Movie Talk: "When Hong Kong Goes Hollywood"
81When Hong Kong Goes Hollywood
Die-hard fans of Hong Kong movies (such as myself) were really excited about 15 years or so back when Jackie Chan finally succeeded in crossing over to Hollywood movies, and was quickly followed by such other Hong Kong names as Jet Li, Chow Yun-Fat, Michelle Yeoh and director John Woo. But it didn't take long before we realized that while Hollywood studios were more than happy to use the names and reputations that these stars had built up over the years through their Hong Kong movies, they weren't really interested in using their talents... at least, not to create anything like the kinds of films on which they'd built their reputations. Maybe you have some doubts about this? Well, read on.
JACKIE CHAN. Jackie Chan is probably the number one world-wide star of martial arts films to come along since Bruce Lee. His original blend of kung fu and comedy, occasionally supplemented by a surprising talent for dramatic acting, resulted in Hong Kong classics such as "Project A" (parts 1 & 2), "Armor Of God", the "Police Story" series, and, most of all, the all-time classics "Drunken Master" and "Drunken Master II". So what have we gotten now that he's finally a Hollywood celebrity? Well, we have "The Tuxedo", in which he co-stars with that legendary action star JENNIFER LOVE HEWITT. We have "Around The World In 80 days", in which Jackie isn't even the primary lead character. Most embarassing of all, we have the umpteenth "action guy stuck with a bunch of kids" comedy, "The Spy Next Door". And now he substitues for Pat Morita in the new "Karate Kid". I'd read on IMDB recently that Chan has said that from now on, as far as he's concerned, his Hollywood movies are just a means of raising funds for his REAL films, the ones he makes in Hong Kong. I'm not surprised.
JET LI. The man behind one of the great martial arts series of recent times, "Once Upon A Time In China". Star of the unforgettable "Fist of Legend" and "Legend Of Fong Sai-Yuk" (how many other martial arts heroes are aided in battle by their mothers?). The man who has been revealing himself to be quite the actor in recent years. And his introduction to the American movie scene? Playing a cliched "yellow peril" Asian villain in "Lethal Weapon 4" (come on... Mel Gibson defeating Jet Li in martial arts combat? Get Real!). Since then, well... anyone even remember "The One" or "Unleashed" (what an embarassment!)? And now teaming up with Stallone, Dolph Lundgren and other washed-up has-been action stars for "The Expendables". The man is simply too good to deserve that. (And let's not even MENTION "The Mummy: Tomb Of The Dragon Emperor"!). The only way he's been able to get any good films on his resume in recent years is to occasionally go back to China to appear in films like "Fearless" and "The Warlords". (You'll notice this as a kind of pattern.)
CHOW YUN-FAT. The most elegant, coolest of the Hong Kong stars. An action man who's also sophisiticated and funny. Nobody else could have pulled off the wacky comedies he did in his earlier film days, and nobody short of maybe Cary Grant in his prime could have been so cooly impressive as the God Of Gamblers. So what has HE done in Hollywood? After starting off promisingly in "The Replacement Killers", he's been seen mostly in tripe like "Bulletproof Monk" and "The Corrupter" (co-starring Mark Whalberg), and wasted in a too-brief supporting role in the third "Pirates of the Caribbean" movie. The one bright spot in the west: the art-house, independent "Children of Huang Shi". Otherwise, just like Jet Li, he's had to go back to China in order to exercise his real talent in movies like "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" and "Curse Of The Golden Flower". When will Hollywood learn?
MICHELLE YEOH. By far the biggest name in female action stars, either in Hong Kong or worldwide. She equalled Jackie Chan at his best in "Supercop: Police Story 3", she had a couple of the most memorable fight scenes ever in "Wing Chun", she played a powerful female super-hero in the two "Heroic Trio" movies. In short, a real powerhouse and someone who commands the screen in every scene she's in. Her introduction to many filmgoers in the west: swooning helplessly over Pierce Brosnan's James Bond as yet another in the endless line of Bond Girls (has there EVER been an actress who's impressed as a Bond Girl?). And since then it's been even worse, in a series of small supporting roles that aren't even publicised in most of the ads, in films some of which are barely released. And how many people were even AWARE that she was also in "The Mummy: Tomb Of The Dragon Emperor" with Jet Li? Very few, if all you know is what you see in the ads. Luckily, there was "Children Of Huang Shi" and the trip back to China for "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" (both with Chow Yun-Fat). Hollywood often doesn't know what to do with its MALE action stars... women really confuse them.
JOHN WOO. Nobody combines fast-paced action with serious themes like John Woo can. "Bullet In The Head" packs an emotional punch unlike anything you've ever seen, and the "Better Tomorrow" films, along with movies like "The Killer", will satisfy anyone who longs for rapid-fire action and plenty of shoot-outs, but they also have serious things to say about faith, the bond between brothers and sisters (whether blood relatives or otherwise), and our relationship to our fellow human beings. And he can also do sophisticated comedy like "Once A Thief". So of course his first movie in Hollywood is "Hard Target" starring Jean-Claude Van Damme, the human pudding. Then, after one single moment of brilliance in "Face/Off"... a genuine John Woo movie from start to finish... it's downhill all the way with "Mission: Impossible II", "Paycheck" (Ben Affleck, action star?), and a depressing number of others. Like so many, he also had to return to China in order to finally do something he felt really passionate about... in his case, his long-time dream project, the historical epic "Red Cliff". Hey, Hollywood... you've proven you CAN allow John Woo to make a real John Woo movie ONCE... how about giving him another chance? Or is that too much to ask?
And yet, stars from around the world still persist in coming to Hollywood to break into the western market. The studios see the fanaticism these names all evoke in western fans of their eastern films and decide they want a piece of that action. So they bring them over here, and time after time after time, the create for them movies that have only the slightest fraction of the appeal that their fans came to appreciate them for. It really shouldn't be that difficult to realize what made these people stars and give western audiences more of it... should it? Yet, for every one of the names here, there are way too many other examples of the same pitfalls tripping up talented people. Wouldn't it be in the best interests of the studios to give the fans what they actually want? Oh, well. Maybe that would make too much sense.
Anyone who's ever seen movies like "Crime Story" or "New Police Story"... or. oddly enough, even the recent remake of "The Karate Kid" (a rare Hollywood instance of Jackie getting a role that lets him stretch his acting chops) knows how much he's capable of. If he Hollywood movies allow him to make more films like that they'll have served a useful purpose. Thanks for the comment.
Yes, and he is so determined and well-respected, I'm sure he will get his chance. If you watch Shanghai Noon with the commentary by the director and Owen Wilson, you will hear a lot of compliments on Jackie Chan's acting talent. Owen Wilson says he was very pleasantly surprised by what a good actor Jackie Chan is. He went on to point out a few instances in this film.
Very informative hub! Jackie CHan, Jet Li, and Tony Jaa are my favorite Asian actors.
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Kiss of the Dragon is the story of chinese, police officer nicknamed Johnny (Jet Li) who is framed while on a mission in France. Insp. Richard (Tcheky Karyo) leads a group of crocked cops and misinformed...
kaltopsyd on Hubpages: "Karate Kid 2010"
- Karate Kid (2010)
Google Images "Life will knock us down but we can choose to get back up." - Mr. Han When the career of 12-year-old Dre's mother requires that they move to China, Dre's life is flipped upside down. Dre has a...
didfe2010 on Hubpages: "Classic Kung Fu Movies"
- Classic Kung Fu Movies
Martial arts movies are a classic genre. I'm not talking about American kung fu movies, I'm talking about Classic Chinese Kung Fu Movies. Jackie Chan and Jet Lii have become well known celebrities all over...
ballsbrunswick on Hubpages: "A Better Tomorrow" (1986)
- A Better Tomorrow (1986)
Happiness is murdering a bunch of extras The Bad Side of Town What do you think of when you think of Asian gangster films? Operatic themes, beautifully choreographed gunplay, wild and graphic violence,...
Alma Cabase on Hubpages: "Jet Li Vs. Jackie Chan"
- Jet Li Vs Jackie Chan
Birth name: Lee Yeung Chung Birth place: Beijing China Date of birth: April 26, 1963 Martial arts practice: Wushu and mix martial arts he need to learn for movies Jet Li does not believe that he is one...
Vanillarey on Hubpages: "Police Story (1985)": An Action Packed Movie
- Police Story (1985) an action packed movie
police story poster Jackie Chans Police Story AKA Police Force AKA Jing cha gu shi (Mandarin title) was one of his major hit movies. Jackie Chan plays the lead character in this movie. He was also...
JBunce on Hubpages: Movie talk: Why I Think "Duck Soup" Is The Number One Comedy Of All Time
- Movie Talk: Why I Think "Duck Soup" Is The Number One Comedy Of All Time
The real test of a truly great comedy, in my mind, is whether you can continue seeing it time and time again, and still laugh as much each time, even though you know all the jokes and punchlines by now. In...
petexahn on Hubpages: "Pete's Movie Reviews: Red Cliff"
- Pete's Movie Reviews: Red Cliff ()
Set in the final days of the Han Dynasty, 208 AD, Red Cliff (Chi Bi being the Mandarin name) is loosely based on the event surround the historical battle of Red Cliff. Following successes on the battlefield,...
JBunce on Hubpages: "Fresh Reviews: A Woman, A Gun & A Noodle Shop"
Somnambulist on Hubpages: "Ten Shaw Brothers Movies Any Kung Fu Fan Must See"
Cheeky Girl on Hubpages: "Maggie Q: Star of Nikita & Die Hard"
- Maggie Q - Star of Nikita and Die hard
From humble origins in Honolulu to Hong Kong to Hollywood, thanks to actor Jackie Chan, Hub Pages presents Maggie Q - the sexy star - like Jessica Alba and Jennifer Garner - another great leading lady of the future. She has one foot in Movies and the
sairakhan on Hubpages: "The Most Dangerous Injuries/Stunts of Jackie Chan"
Juice76 on Hubpages: "How Bruce Lee Has Impacted My Life"
Squidbuilder on Hubpages: "Bruce Lee"
Haunty on Hubpages: "Kung Fu/Gung Fu, Popular Chinese Martial Art"
- http://hubpages.com/hub/Kung-Fu-Gung-Fu-Popular-Chinese-Martial-Art
In martial arts, kung fu means "inner power," but in Western culture, it has been a generic term for Chinese martial arts from the internal disciplines of taijiquan (tai chi chuan), baguazhang (pa...
rayncm on Hubpages: "Masked Heroes of Southeast Asia"
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Stevenho128 on Hubpages: "The Best Of Jackie Chan Movies List"
Stevenho128 on Hubpages: "The Best Jet Li Movies List Ever"
r2punks on Hubpages: "Lin Chiling/Lin Zhiling"
ajjherma on Hubpages: "Great Cult Movies" (w/John Woo's "Hard Target")
hairyLGS on Hubpages: "Hairy Guide To Shop Online For Asian Films on DVD or Blu-Ray"
Ahab On Hubpages: "Hong Kong Travel With Children"
wahyuJK on Hubpages: "Review of Little Big Soldiers"
alladream74 on Hubpages: "The Karate Kid" starring Jaden Smith and Jackie Chan: A Point Of View On Big Star Combinations In Film"
JBunce on Hubpages: "Movie Talk: If The Great Directors Did Harry Potter"
Sabreblade on Hub pages: "Beautiful Chinese Actresses"
- Beautiful Chinese Actresses
Continuing on with my Hubs about the most beautiful women, we move to China. It's only fitting that one of the world's oldest civilizations has some of the world's most beautiful and talented women. This Hub features beautiful Chinese actresses Lucy
adhie7887 on Hubpages: "Ip Man 2: Legend Of The Grandmaster"
Stevenho128 on Hubpages: "More Inspiring Martial Arts Movies Like Ip Man"
Stevenho128 on Hubpages: "The Best Donnie Yen Movies Ever"
lilian_sg on Hubpages: "My Second Visit To Hong Kong: The City That Never Sleeps"
lilian_sg on Hubpages: "My Second Visit To Hong Kong: The City That Never Sleeps (Part 2)"
prettydarkhorse on Hubpages: "Hubrail Capstone, Hong Kong Tour: A Beautiful Travel Experience"
lilian sg on Hubpages: "Hong Kong: Shopping For Every Budget"
lilian sg on Hubpages: "Eating In Hong Kong"
JBunce on Hubpages: "Secondhand Reviews: Kung Fu Panda 2" (w/Jackie Chan and Michelle Yeoh)
CarltheCritic1291 on Hubpages: "Carl The Critic Reviews Kung Fu Panda 2"
CreativeK on Hubpages: "A Twist On Karate Kid"
Patty Inglish, MS: "Top 10 Global Celebrities" (Including Jackie Chan)
- TOP 10 GLOBAL CELEBRITIES
There are many Top 10 and Top 100 lists, but these 10 people came to mind for me first. Enjoy and please comment!
Chris Eddy111 on Hubpages: "Top 5 Sexy Actors In martial Arts Movies"
metalhobbit on Hubpages: "The Karate Kid"
BallsBrunswick on Hubpages: "A Better Tomorrow" (1986)
Stevenho128: "The Best Nicholas Cage Films List" (including John Woo's "Face/Off")
PrettyDarkHorse on Hubpages: "Hubtrail Capstone, Hong Kong Tour: A Beautiful Travel Experience"
lilian_sg on Hubpages: "Hong Kong: Shopping For Every Budget"
Kabalah on Hubpages: "Hong Kong Life"
Funmoojo on Hubpages: "Hong Kong Local Food Guide"
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H P Roy Choudhury on Hubpages: "Victoria Peak Of Hong Kong"
JW East on Hubpages: "Hong Kong Cinema And Art Events"
elynjo on Hubpages: "My Impressions Of Kowloon, Hong Kong"
- My Impressions of Kowloon, Hong Kong
What to do in Hong Kong? Hmmm. SHOP! SHOP! SHOP! SLEEP! Then SHOP some more! This is the mecca and a shopping wonderland for shop addicts and shopaholics. Visiting Hong Kong is always an extremely remarkable experience.
teacherjoe52 on Hubpages: "Happy Holidaying In Hong Kong"
P Wilson on Hubpages: "Top 10 Hong Kong Snacks"
Bill Yon on Hubpages: "Float Like A Butterfly, Sting Like A Dragon"
Squidbuilder on Hubpages: "Bruce Lee"
GordonTam on Hubpages: "Insider Hong Kong Travel Guide"
Dave L. On Hubpages: "The Many Talents Of Bruce Lee"
Ryan Nguyen on Hubpages: "Bruce Lee (The Only Dragon)"
AEvans on Hubpages: "Legend Of Bruce Lee"
- Legend Of Bruce Lee
Legend of Bruce Lee. Not only iconic but a man who was a legend years after his death. Bruce Lee is still loved by ....
juice76 on Hubpages: "How Bruce Lee Has Impacted My Life"
DRBJ on Hubpages: "Interview With Bruce Lee"
- Interview with Bruce Lee Martial Arts Master, Film Maker and Actor
There are so many deceased famous people for me to interview with my supernatural powers, that I am having a difficult time selecting just one. But fortunately, this one selected me. I was finishing my moo shu pork in my favorite Chinese restaurant w
rockstarlion on Hubpages: "Bruce Lee (A Legend)"
Mohin28 on Hubpages: "Jackie Chan, The Famous Chinese Movie Star"
Stevenho128 on Hubpages: "List Of The Best Chinese Films You Will Love"
Santosh on Hubpages: "The Other Side Of Bruce Lee"
teacherjoe on Hubpages: "Happy Holidaying In Hong Kong: East Sim Sha Tsui"
The Jet (Question) on Hubpages: "Bruce Lee Vs. Jet Li Vs. Jackie Chan"
- Bruce Lee vs. Jet Li vs. Jackie Chan?
Listing of the answers to the question: Bruce Lee vs. Jet Li vs. Jackie Chan?Bruce Lee. Hands down. What do you think?
Nancy Zhai on Hubpages: "Top 10 Hot Religious Scenic Spots In Hong Kong"
lilylemons on Hubpages: "True Legend: The First 3-D Version of Kung Fu"
Lady_E on Hubpages: "Jet Li: My favorite Asian Actor"
- Jet Li - My Favourite Asian Actor
Three Excellent Movies by Jet Li
Thisayakhorn on Hubpages: "A Tale Of Two Cities: Hong Kong & Singapore"
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crankalicious: "Top 10 Gangster Movies" (Including John Woo's "The Killer")
- Top 10 Films: Best Gangster Movies
A former film critic and co-creator of Mr. Cranky Rates the Movies picks the top ten gangster films, selecting "Miller's Crossing" as the best ever.
bhavinswadas on Hubpages: "Top B-School In Hong Kong & Singapore"
- Top B-School in HongKnog and Singapore
Doing an MBA is always a bright proposition especially when the degree is earned from any reputed B-Schools and MBA colleges of the world. Hong Kong and Singapore are among the two major hubs of MBA learning in Asia. If you want to earn your MBA degr
hairyLGS on Hubpages: "Hairy Guide To Shop For Asian films Online Or Blu-Ray"
prettydarkhorse on Hubpages: "Hubtrail Capstone, Hong Kong: A Beautiful Travel Experience"
lady rain on Hubpages: "Top 50 Places T o Go Visit In Hong Kong"
- Top 50 Places to Go Visit in Hong Kong
Hong Kong is one of the most densely populated areas in the world. With limited land and a population of over seven million people accommodated in high-rise apartments ...
Hollywood.com: "Jackie Chan To Receive Wildlife Award"
- Chan to receive wildlife award | Hollywood.com
Martial arts movie star Jackie Chan is to receive an award to mark his efforts campaigning for wildlife conservation.. Up to the minute entertainment news.
Hollywood Reporter: Flying Swords Of Dragon Gate 3D: Film Review"
- Flying Swords of Dragon Gate 3D: Film Review - The Hollywood Reporter
Jet Li leads the cast in director-screenwriter Tsui Hark's extravagant and action-packed ride.
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hollywoodreporter.com: "Tsui hark's Flying Swords Of Dragon Gate Leads Asian Film Award Nominations"
- Tsui Hark's 'Flying Swords of Dragon Gate' Leads Asian Film Awards Nomina
Director Tsui Hark’s 3D extravaganza "The Flying Swords of Dragon Gate" leads the Sixth Asian Film Awards nominations with seven nods, closely followed by "Warriors of the Rainbow: Seediq Bale" by Taiwan’s Wei Te-sheng, and "The Flowers of War" by Ch






justmesuzanne Level 5 Commenter 18 months ago
Oh! Thanks for adding the link to my article below! :) I appreciate it! I just reviewed THE SPY NEXT DOOR on my review hub:
Good Movies Out on DVD http://hubpages.com/hub/Good-Movies-Out-on-DVD
I agree with you that the Hollywood movies are definitely not as good as Jackie Chan's Hong Kong movies; however, I think they are serving the purpose of allowing him to expand his career. I recently came across this quote from him:
The life of an action star is very short. I want to be an actor like Robert De Niro , like Dustin Hoffman or Clint Eastwood who in their 70s or 80s can still act.
Jackie Chan
That's a lofty goal, but I think he can do it. He never gives up! I am always impressed by how much his English skills improve from movie to movie. It takes a good bit of commitment and hard work to make that kind of progress - especially as a mature adult!
So, I like his Hollywood movies because they are allowing him to show us more of his considerable talents. He won't be a stuntman forever, but he will be an actor and entertainer, and he has the determination to continue to become a better and better actor and entertainer!